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So much to talk about...............

Wow. 2006. Where do I begin....? The last two weeks have been a blur, what with Steamboat (If you haven't been, go. More on that later), Hangover Ball (Fans asking for $100 ticket prices. If that's not saying something, then what does?), and what else was it? Oh yes, HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! Speaking of which, I'd like to take a few minutes to briefly address some of what is in the guestbook. First of all, this is all my opinion, and not that of anyone else associated with the Wormy Dog in any form or fashion. Second of all, I really don't give a damn about what anyone has to say in the guestbook, as we all know that is the same two people posting under various names to make it look like there are a bunch of people taking time away from their jobs to post..... Two people, and of course Vinny, so technically three. But I digress.....

Since there is at least one person concerned that the Dog hasn't issued some official opinion regarding Texas Jack and NYE, I will take it upon myself to issue an unofficial opinion for the Dog, However, as stated in the previous sentence, it isn't official.

First, the facts: Yes, Texas Jack was told to wrap up roughly 30 minutes before they were to wrap up originally (it was a short show to begin with, and they weren't booked to play as long as they play on a regular night). It was my understanding Texas Jack was told by two different people that they were to play cover songs if they wanted to play on New Years. This was supposedly done at the time the show was booked, and again before they went on stage. Texas Jack says this wasn't mentioned beyond being told to "throw in a few covers" right before they went on stage, otherwise they would have declined to play the New Years Eve show.

Now that we have the facts down, let's address the "rumor that they got cut off for not playing cover tunes". That is factually true in that it is a "rumor", but that is absolutely not the reason they were asked to shut off early (I define "cut off" as turning off the microphones and cutting power to the stage. Something that definately didn't happen. They were told to play either 3 or 4 more songs to wrap it up). The one and only reason I asked them to quit early was because of the steady stream of people that began leaving by the second song, and didn't let up until the dj music came back on. In fact, over two hundred people left in the span of 30 to 45 minutes (I'm not guessing, we were tracking our outs in case the Fire Marshal paid us a visit), and once we went over two hundred, it was obvious we had to do something to stop people from leaving. Oh yeah, up to the point Texas Jack came on stage only 40 people had left since the doors had opened.

Here are a few observations I hope those of you who think I somehow wronged Texas Jack will take into consideration. First of all, New Years Eve is different than any other night of the year. People are out because it is the biggest party night of the year, and they want to party. As a bar, we have to entertain, or we go broke. For those of you who have some vision that we should "just be about the music", we are, but it costs a hell of a lot of money to "just be about the music" in Bricktown, so we have to entertain first and foremost. Believe me, if the people who left had stuck around while TJ was playing, we wouldn't have had them shut down early, and they could have played polka music for all I care, but when your crowd is leaving you do what you have to do(by the way, that was almost half the people who were there. If it hadn't been NYE, we might not have filled the place back up).

I have never once asked TJ to play any kind of format except that night. To the best of my knowledge, neither has anyone else at the Dog, but again, NYE is a different night than most. Some of you seem to think that we should sacrifice to no end to bring Red Dirt and Texas music to the people, but if you can't pay your rent does your Landlord just blow it off? Neither does ours. If you want a great live music venue like the Dog to stay in existance, we have to pay our bills just like everyone else, including the guys who play music for a living. Now that I have stood on my soap box for a few, allow me to stand on it just a bit longer. Here are some of the comments from the guestbook I most want to respond to (good judgement tells me to leave well enough alone, but those of you who know me, know good judgement isn't one of my best attributes).

pwc Sunday, January 8, 2006 11:02 PM
Amen to that brother Buf. I am quiet suprised that the WD won't comment on this, seeing as how they have been personally attacked. Oh, well I guess that goes to show you that when a band does special stuff for your club(i.e. play for free at times and play when they need a last minute band) that means nothing to them. They would rather say Ah, screw it and not defend or support the people that support them. If they don't support the bands why should we support them?


Ok, pwc, are you satisfied? Now the Wormy Dog has unofficially responded by not responding, but allowing me to respond on their site (Did you catch that, pwc? If not, I'll wait while you read it a couple more times). As for a band doing special stuff for us, do you have any idea how many bands would not only play for free, but KILL to play on our stage? Where did TJ play at in OKC before we booked them? Do you think they are doing us a favor by filling in at the last minute? We are giving them an opportunity unlike any other they would have in OKC, every time they plug in their amps.

Concerned Saturday, January 7, 2006 10:18 AM
What is the WD's stance on the NYE thing? Why haven't we had an intervention from you?


Dear Concerned in OKC,

The guestbook is there so people like yourself can vent your frustrations, praise your musical heroes, and promote your favorite bands. As long as things stay semi within reason, we don't feel like we need to be editing, intervening, or telling everyone to play nice (unless you're the guy who keeps posting spam, and if you are, stop it! It pisses me off!). Beyond that, we encourage everyone to post to their little heart's content. I hope this helps you with your issue.

Sincerely yours,
Dear Abbey

Ragan Friday, January 6, 2006 11:10 AM
Man I guess I missed some stuff while hangin' in the Blue Ridge Mountains. Its been two weeks without live music for me. Yeah Badwater tomorrow night for sure.


Ragan, Steamboat is in the Rocky Mountains. Next time catch a ride with "Wormy Dog" Bob.

Jack Blue Wednesday, January 4, 2006 08:58 AM
Vinny just to let you know I support all Tx and RD music. Dave, do you think everyone knew all of Ragweed's or even TGD's song when they first started? How the hell will more people like their music if they don't get to hear it, Tx Jack is awesome and they are not a cover band


Just out of curiosity, Jack, when did you first see CCR or TGD in concert? I remember going to Ragweed shows when 10 people showed up, and believe me, there was ALOT of cover music played (Does anyone else remember the cover of Van Halen's Ice Cream Man at the WD Concert Hall in Stillwater?). The first Steve Earle, Robert Earle Keen, and Jerry Jeff Walker songs I ever heard were covered by the Divide, not to mention their covers of Jimmy Buffet, Green Day, and Everclear, and it's a big part of what turned me on to the Divide. You can't just force-feed your music to people and expect them to like it because it's an "original", and if you don't grab their attention in the first 15 minutes they are listening to you, chances are you've missed your oportunity. Climbing the ladder in the music business is a process that doesn't happen overnight, and it doesn't happen just because you write and play your own music. The band has to grow on people, and eventually their music will too.

You are making alot of progress with your anger management issues, and I think in one or two more sessions we'll have it pretty well under control. Now, my fee for the couch is $150 per hour, with a one hour minimum, so please make your check payable to Dr. Feelgood, or I can simply add it on to your bar tab. Which would you prefer?

Ashly Wednesday, January 4, 2006 06:54 PM
There's a big divide between people who come to the wormy dog b/c it's a club in Bricktown and the people who come because it's the WORMY DOG and for what that name stands for in OK/TX music. So it's not surprising the people who are there for the DJ couldn't wait for the band to be done. My hangup is I can go to City Walk and hear the same stuff they play at the "house parties." The Wormy Dog is unique in its name and its history and I'd like to see it stay that way. It's sad that it's not profitable when it comes to the bottom line though. So I guess that's what it's about. The business. I think we'd all like it to be about the music, the bands, and the creative side of things, but somebody's gotta pay the bills. And the drunk girls grinding to 50 Cent on the dance floor are doing that, I guess. But I miss the old days when you knew you were gonna see raw talent and hear somebody's heart. And I love the boys from TJ. And the day they become a cover band is the day I quit going to their shows.


Ashly, I think you are a sweetheart. You are one of the biggest supporters of live music in general, and the Wormy Dog specifically. However, I have to disagree with you on a point or two. First of all, as I said earlier, NYE is the one night that we have to focus ourselves a bit differently. I hate that it has to be that way, but that's the way it has to be on that particular night. As for hearing what we play at a house party down at City Walk, I seriously doubt you hear Reckless Kelly or the Bellamy Brothers, but I don't go so I guess I don't know. As far as paying the bills go, I believe I've addressed that as well. Now, about the "old days", haven't you been in on a Wednesday night? Have you not heard the likes of not only Cody Canada, Mike McClure, and Stoney LaRue acoustic, but Bo Phillips, Johnny Cooper, and Buddy Huffman as well? Do you think we are selling out when we continue to put people up on that stage for an average of 30 people on a Wednesday night? We lose our ass to bring music to OKC from time to time, and I think perhaps we can tolerate a little female to female grinding (perhaps some brief nudity as well-- just kidding ABLE Commission!) and a house party here and there to keep that kind of stuff coming back week in and week out. Raw Talent has not left the Wormy Dog, it just has to take a little breather once in awhile and watch a few girls dance on the bar!

Jack Blue Thursday, January 5, 2006 04:08 PM
basically, Vinny is a follower or a bitch and just does whatever his leaders or masters tell him to


Damn Jack! And here I thought we'd made so much progress! That will be another $150......

Ashly Thursday, January 5, 2006 06:57 PM
Hell yeah! Roger Clyne! Wouldn't miss it! And I didn't mean to say there's never any good music there anymore. It's just that I get tired of walking in to rap and thinking what the hell are we listening to now... it's just weird to see how things change. I still like it, but if they're wanting my boys to become a cover band, I'm out. That's all.


Yes, you're going to hear some rap from time to time (some nights more than others, depending on the crowd), but you're also going to hear Texas Jack, Badwater, Kevin Fowler, Charlie Robison, Jason Boland, and Ragweed (and speaking of rap, you might even see Cowboy Troy and Big and Rich, and I also hear that Kid Rock drops by once in awhile). Does that somehow take away from all the rest of the great bands who grace the WD stage? I don't think so. As far as things changing, do you remember what the original Dog was like? Now, I'm talking pre-Wooley and Dennis days when the Great One himself, Mr. Robert Charles Thomson Jr. (founder of the famous venue) was spinning bootie shaking music (yes Virginia, they had rap back then) and doing the belly whip from the rafters? You see, Ashly, we have actually returned to the old days, but we brought the best part of the newer old days with us. Live music. Chuck did very little of that because back then Ragweed hadn't yet even sold out the old Dog, and it wasn't the draw it is today. What we are trying to do is to keep bringing the best live Texas and Red Dirt music we can to as many people as we can pack in on any given night, and if we have to play some rap to create a party, then by golly turn down the lights, put the girls up on the bar, and crank Nelly up until poor Steve thinks I'm going to blow his speakers, but we are going to throw a party! That is what the Wormy Dog is and has always been about: One HELL of a good time! And no, we don't want Texas Jack to become a cover band (unless they want to play on NYE next year).

Tim Friday, January 6, 2006 09:02 AM
Ive been to the wormy dog a few times and really enjoyed it. two times I saw a band called Texas Jack, they were great. It appears that today the general society prefers pop boom, boom music. It has taken over the entire country. That is why I love the Wormy Dog because I thought they supported live music not pop, which made the bar 1 of a kind. To my suprise I heard that it wasn't true, that it's all about money. I think you need to figure out what this bar is about, LIVE MUSIC or simple minded butt rub music for people to shake their asses.


Well Tim, unfortunately for you, I'm getting tired and cranky, and I just used up my last drop of "nice" on Ashly. Tim, you are a dumbass. You say yourself you've been to the bar a few times, saw some live music, and really enjoyed it, but because you "heard" it wasn't true (even though you have first hand experiences to discount that nasty, little rumor), you've now decided it's all about the money. I think you need to figure out that every business has to make money. Do you think any of your favorite bands play for free? Are they "just about the money" because they get paid? How do you think they can afford to eat at Taco Bell and buy guitar strings? As for what the Wormy Dog supports, why don't you take a look at our calendar. We are THE supporter of this music in OKC, and we will continue to support live music as long as we can afford to keep our doors open. Tell you what Tim, why don't you just pull out your self-righteous checkbook at the first of every month and cut us a check for the cost of our rent to show us just how big a supporter of live music you are! Are you a big enough supporter to do that Mr. Big Supporter? Mr. Big Athletic Supporter? Well? Huh? Are ya???..........

Ahem.... ah.... er.... um...... ah, just allow me to apologize for losing my cool there. Perhaps it was the tequila talking...... Or maybe Tim just pissed me off a little bit. Either way, Tim, how about you and I bury the hatchet? Come on back to the Dog the next time we're having a band play that you want to see, and I'll let you buy me a couple of beers. Alrighty, we'll see you then.

ashly Friday, January 6, 2006 10:23 AM
dude what bar were you in Saturday night? the place was packed and everybody was up at the front partyin. i don't know what all this "the crowd wasn't into it" bs is all about. it took me 15 minutes to get to the bathroom to pee because of all the people!


Well lookey there! Found one more drop of nice! Ashly, guess it's just your lucky day! Um, yes Ashly, the bar was packed. It was New Years Eve. All of the bars were packed that night..... I don't know about all this "crowd wasn't into it" stuff either, except for those who were leaving. Sorry it took so long to get to the bathroom, and even more sorry that you ladies have to deal with a bathroom that's in the shape that one is in. I'd like to say we have plans to fix it up, but it's already so much nicer than what you had at the Dog in Stillwater, Chuck won't let us.....

Wow! Amazing what a person can accomplish in 3 hours! I'd love to go on about some of the other stuff, but I'll save that for another night. Who knows, maybe we'll get a post from the Drunk Cameraman or Big Silk to cover some of that, since I'm sure my rantings have put most of you to sleep already. Sorry for any misspelled words or poor grammer, but I'm not proofing this thing, so please be a darling and deal with it. Please post to the guestbook, as we love to know what you're thinking, and we'll see everyone out this weekend for the big Kevin Fowler show!!! Don't forget Wade and West 84 on Wednesday and Tucker Road on Friday! If you didn't go to Steamboat, GO NEXT YEAR! You too, Ragan.

 


 

 
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